Picture this: Beautiful couple, beautiful setting, beautiful night. Man and his girlfriend are out and about on one of those perfect summer nights. This is one of those nights where everything during the day was going smoothly and it seemed as if everyone in the world was in a good mood. The two have been walking for about an hour and the woman decides that she is thirsty. Man suggests they go into one of those downtown grocery stores. You know, the ones where a Naked juice is $6.50. They both look at each other with a little bit of skepticism, but the woman says “f*#k it, I got that raise. Let’s keep the party going.” So the two enter the store, the man grabs Fiji water for $3 cash, and the woman goes for the ‘Red Machine’ Naked juice. They walk to the register, smiling, laughing, pinching butt cheeks, enjoying each other’s presence. Store owner grabs the beverages after they’ve been placed on the counter. Returns the products in a plastic bag and passes the woman $0.50. The woman thought $0.50 would be fine if she gave the Korean man $10.00. But she gave him a $20.00 bill, so he owes her some money. Of course the Korean man isn’t going; he knows what she gave him. And what she gave him was a $10.00 bill. The boyfriend is in the background stupefied because he has never seen his girl behave like this. She’s yelling and making all types of crazy hand gestures. She’s really upset. Korean man isn’t going. Police arrive. Woman gets more berated. The scene is now super crazy. Boyfriend exhausted and frustrated from trying to calm his woman down. If he had not committed to this relationship a couple weeks ago, he would have left the scene a long time ago. Half an hour later after police threateningly pulled the hand cuffs out, the gathering disperses. Couple leaves $10 cash short, with warm water and juice. Naked juices are only good when they are cold.
Ladies and Gentlemen, the point of the story is that whether women realize it or not, there are some men out there who actually care about how a woman carries herself. For every setting and situation, there is appropriate and acceptable behavior. In case someone needs clarification, I will break it down for you.
Simplify it into three categories. The categories are: When the man and woman are together in public, when they are together alone and when they are separated in public. The same way men have to act appropriate at times, a woman should act a certain way during each occasion as well. Some behavior is allowed at different times and some behavior is not allowed at any time. For instance, I better never hear about or see my woman picking boogers from her nose. I’m sorry, but that’s a deal breaker. That’s what they make bathrooms for. That’s disgusting. What is she? A man? She should excuse herself and go handle her business. Other things included in the repulsive category include farting, burping and anything else sickening that you can ponder.
Besides the nasty smells and sights, the woman can do anything when we are together. She should be herself. I would prefer she doesn’t curse as much as I and hopefully she’s tidy. Hitting is unacceptable unless its play time and its leading to sex. And as far as sex, she can be as freaky as a porn star. I would prefer that she is only a nun if we are role playing and she is the Brooklyn nun that claimed to be raped by a 6’-4”, 250 lb black man.
That takes care of when we are alone. When we are separate, although it may be taken for granted, this is a very important time. I believe that at all times, a man’s other half represents him. This is most important when she is without him in public. The last thing a guy wants to hear is that his girl was drunk, giving lap dances at the club. A man may break up with his girl if he gets a text message saying that she is in the beauty salon trying to fight the hairdresser because she put the wrong color in her hair. Most respectable men want a lady and not the ShenenĂ© type of lady. In fact, most respectable men want to get complimented on their woman’s behavior.
When a man and woman are together, it can be a little tricky. Everyone has a different embarrassment and desired respect level. Some men tolerate less than others. The man and woman of a couple should know what behavior works for each other. In the story above, this guy seemed too cool for his woman’s behavior. Whether he enjoyed the display or not, I’m sure he wouldn’t have been mad if she did nothing. If she took the loss and simply left to enjoy the rest of their evening, he would have been fine. Unfortunately, after this night’s events, there’s a slight chance the anticipated intimacy for the evening had been compromised.
In conclusion, timing is everything and there is a time and place for everything. Men are immature at times. Women are immature at times. Everyone should have foresight and know when crazy behavior is appropriate and how certain behavior will have an affect. Most importantly, know that Korean store owners are not going!
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I've been in situations on both ends of the spectrum. The bad ones, when, after lookin at the girl like another head popped out her neck, wished I could fold my arms and being like Tabitha. And the good, when I would pull up a seat and grab a bag of popcorn and watch the show. I agree that its about what works for you as an individual, but I also feel there exists those who may give cause for rule-bending. For example, I don't mind a woman who curses ery now & again, but every other fuckin word outta her fuckin mouth shouldn't be a fuckin 4 letter word! But, depending on the context AND the female in question, I may be willing to let it slide. I also think what turns a person on comes into play, you know....that whole hooplah about how women are turned on by the sight of seeing their man spazzing out on someone (not her). All in all, its a conversation to be had between both parties. Introduce some hypotheticals, like "we're at a club together, and a guy walks up and tries to Holland at me, and pinches my ass.......how would you react?" Then sit back and read the body language. Fuck what comes out verbally, cause he/she could be frontin.
ReplyDeleteOK Es....i agree and dont agree...first off personally if im out with my man and someone gives me the wrong change and im there demanding my fair due and my "MAN" doesn't attempt to step in and be the mediator between myself and another man....when i finish going in on the chump who has my change ima go in on my "MAN" and he will be released from that duty two sec after i finish with the first idiot.
ReplyDeleteSecondly, ur really claiming that when you are alone with your woman she should not burp, fart or pick her nose? Really? i hope that u adhere to that as well.....in my book that is bullshyt. If u are human and u get the urge to fart or burp or u got sum crusty boogers up your nose and u r n your woman presence and u dont feel comfortable doing you then u need to think about y u sitting next to that particular person. the WHOLE idea of a relationship is that you are making steps toward marriage and who wants to be married feeling like u cant burp or fart in front of your wifey/hubby? so if we had a one bathroom apt and your brushing your teeth and i have the shitty runs i cant use the toliet for fear of u leaving me?
That maybe y ur single....lol
all jks aside there is someone out there for everyone but they all burp, fart, shit, spit, vomit, cry, catch colds, get aggy for no apparent reason, spaz (when pushed) and basically ACT LIKE HUMAN BEINGS.
Third, i never took you for a gossip Es. Just because you "hear" from Joe blow down the block that your lady spazzed in the beauty salon doesnt mean that she is going buckwild. Maybe she had a legitimate reason to buck off...what if she heard something about you from Keke down the block and dumped you before u got the chance to explain? if it was not what she thoughtu might be upset at her judging you. Judge not lest ye be judged by the same measure.
Lastly....im sure you have "standards" so you will never be in this position but damn dude lossen up. BURP**** lol
Great Post!
ReplyDeleteI totally and completely agree. I would never, ever, ever burp, fart or pick my nose in front of my man... or in front of anyone for that matter. Its disgusting, impolite, and extremely unladylike. I would never take a sh*t with him in the bathroom. If he's comfortable doing those sorts of things, I dont mind. I even find it funny as long as its in private.
If it were me in the store and I was shorted change, I would politely point it out. If he disagreed about the sort of bill I gave him, I would let it go. Ten dollars surely isnt worth making a scene. I'd simply keep that in mind and consider whether I'd bring my business there again.
When my man and I are out, I'd avoid drawing negative attention at all costs. That being said, if I feel disrespected I'd politely and articulately let them know whats up. It would have to be an EXTREME case to see me act up (not to say that it's never happened). I believe in solidarity, so we both should behave in a way that represents each other well.
Now when we are out separately, its even more critical that we be on our P's and Q's. Because if were together, he sees for himself what is going on. If he's hearing through word of mouth that I was in the club dancing on the bar, kissing girls, etc he would only have my word against the gossip's to determine what actually happened. Hopefully, he's observed my character well enough that he could easily decide what to believe.
Another important reason to respect your relationship when out alone is to give the impression to others that you do. If a woman or man is at the club acting wild, it sends the message that they dont care that they are in a relationship, anything goes. People create some lies out of thin air, dont give them something to build off of. In my family/culture bringing shame to your man/household in anyway is one of the worst things anyone can do. If your ship has leaks, someone's going to try to sink it. There are sooooo many men and women who don't understand that.
That being said, obviously both parties are adults and recognize that people to gossip and exaggerate, so all rumors aren't to be taken seriously. This is a REALLY IMPORTANT topic for anyone in a relationship.
Hi Samantha. Missed you boo! As always, your post was a delight. xoxo
ReplyDeleteI agree with Anonymous point on her man not coming to her aid. I think as a man, you have to defend your lady at all cost. Even when you're with her and a guy disrespects her and he is with 10 friends. Odds ain't in your favor, but you still gotta say something and hope the cops come in time to save you from a savage beat down.
I feel we need to act properly in the street when you aren't with your significant other. I can't be wildin and people know I have a girl. It's disrespectful to her and it makes me look wack. Also, when she is out, she needs to behave like a woman in a relationship. Quick way to check yourself is to say, "would I do this if my girl/man was here?" If not, then you need to chillax. And please, when we're out, use your inside voice.
My ex didn't fart or belch around me. When I askd her if she did, she said of course, but not around me. We lived together for 6 months and I never knew when she took a sh*t. That's the gods honest truth. This made me look at her in a whole new light. She epitomized lady like behavior. Would I think she were less of a lady if she did all those things in front of me? Absolutely not. On the other hand, she called me caveman because naturally I belched the ABC's at the table, farted under the covers and pulled them over her head (dutch oven) and shat with the door open. Forever young I guess, c'est la vie.
Respect is a two way street, many guys get that twisted. Treat and act in accordance to the way you want to be treated and the way you want your girl to act. If I'm a clown in the street, can I be mad at her if she is as well? Of course I can, but that's the old double standard. Will I ever embarrass you intentionally? Never.
So let me get this straight... At no point in the relationship is the woman allowed to burp, fart, take a dump or pick her nose?? All things that are human nature (ok maybe not picking your nose lol!). I know all about being a lady, after all I am “LADY T,” but c’mon I’m human!
ReplyDeleteI agree that early on these things should definitely not happen but after the “honeymoon” period, why not? To me, burping and farting = emotional comfort, just like discussing a woman's monthly cycle = sex. I’m not going to pour out my heart to someone who doesn’t accept me as a human with normal body functions. And I’m not going to sleep with a man who I can’t mention my cycle to (Keyword being mention, I don’t give details). If you’re gonna be all up and through me then you're gonna know about my body. Help me count them days so neither of us are surprised. LOL! (I can picture some men cringing right now.)
Just to be clear though, I don’t think women should let it all out just like men. There are lady-like ways to do it so once you reach that comfort level with your man, please do cover your mouth if and when you have to burp and say excuse me when you fart. And please, please keep air freshener in the bathroom. Those are the actions of a true lady. Keeping it in will only kill you. Lol!
As for the point that Anonymous made, it really has me thinking. I’m not sure if my man not stepping in would be a dealbreaker. If it got violent and he just stood there, yes that’s a dealbreaker but at that point it was just words. I tend to think that the best couples are the ones that do not blow up at the same time. So if I’m upset, he needs to be calm and vice versa. If you both lose it how can you be effective?
In Es’ story, the only mistake I think the guy made was to stand in the background. He should’ve stayed next to his girl the whole time and when she reached the point that he felt it was too much, he should’ve calmly and respectfully let her know enough is enough. For me, the right touch or the right look from my man calms me down instantly. If I’m going off on someone and my man tells me enough, I shut up, not because he has control but because I trust him. He’s the one that’s calmly surveying the situation so I trust his judgment. My judgment at the time is clearly lost in emotion. And, I think it should go the same way with him. I should be able to calm him down. That’s an effective couple and to me being effective is more important that feeling like my man defended me.
Good post Es! Oh and Anonymous you had me rolling with that BURP at the end. Love it!
Great Post!
ReplyDelete"Now say what now?!" I can't burp or fart or curse or else I'm not a "Lady" HMPH!
I like to think I’m pretty feminine but I WILL remind people where I’m from if I have to. I hate when store clerks try to short change you however I wouldn't have handled it the way it was described. However it was handled I’d NOT expect my man to not step up and finish it. Not fight or anything, it can be simply talking me down or coming up with a resolution but don't just stand there while I feel like this grave injustice has been made upon me! Lol (A lil dramatic yes but aren't we all lol)
As for this whole act like a lady thing...this is all about not knowing who you picked. There are key tell tale signs that come up showing you the type of person your partner is. I'm not a nose picker or burper or farter (in public) but I’ll be damned if I’ll feel like I have to get up and do a ladylike twinkle toed run to the bathroom b/c I don't want to upset my man while he burns holes in our couch HELL NO!
I've been told I fart in my sleep... sue me! My response was... so do you let’s get a stronger plug in... BAM! Lol I too have lived with someone and I have to say I felt completely comfortable but I did not pick my nose, or have burping contests in front of him or any man. If a belch sneaks up after a Pepsi so be it.
As for acting appropriately when apart, absolutely! but again this falls under picking the right person. I don't believe people just don't "know who they are with", you know... you are just hoping it will be more tamed when they are in a relationship. NOT HAPPENING you have to accept people where and how they are NOW (and expect that they won’t change a thing). You will save yourself a lot of stress.
As for the cursing... when my man is with his friends he can be a sailor all he wants but tone it down when we are together please. Most people are not "Exactly" the same in front of their friends vs. with their spouse but they should not be like Dr Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.
Out of all of my boyfriends I’ve never been surprised by anything he’s started doing once we became a couple, b/c I didn’t let men who had lil idiosyncrasies that drove me crazy get very far. Like a man who refers to women very casually as a “B!@#$es” and says “But not you babe, or… I’m not talking about you.” Or a man who grabs at me lustily EVERYTIME I pass, STOP IT, DAMN! Can I just walk by without being attacked?
Hey Fam....great comments, great topic... lol
In short at the end of the day, my man should be my friend and if I can't be myself with my friend what are we doing? The answer is, nothing, but killing time.
Whats up Anonymous. Why is the man an idiot for allowing you to make a fool of yourself if you know better? If you dont know better, thats a bigger problem. There is adult behavior and childish behavior. I dont have to prove that I am a man by breaking up or jumping in every potential fight that my women decides she wants to start. This aint high school or college. Are you testing him? Thats not fair. I agree, sometimes a man is supposed to step in and diffuse a situation, but also, the woman should have the decency to know her behavior is unacceptable and she shouldn't put her man in these situations just for the fun of it.
ReplyDeleteLast time I checked, men and women are different. I pick boogers, she has periods. Our behavior should be different. And at least i give the courtesy when i fart to announce it. Take cover! If I'm in the bathroom and you have to use it, thats what its for, long as I'm not on toilet blowing it up myself, its yours. I can either choose to stay or not.
"That maybe y ur single" doesn't deserve a response. I see you dont know me and you haven't been reading. But thanks for reading now. I appreciate it. As far as hearing something about her via text, I never said she would get dumped. At the end of the day, I'm for the team. Her and I are the team. She wont have to address every rumor, but if i get a text that something is happening at that exact moment, then i hit her and she confirms, we gotta talk.
Sam, you're dead on! No response needed.
DR, idk if defending my lady at all costs is possible. I know what you are saying, but no one is always right. I will never disrespect her or make her look bad, but there are times where you cant defend her, but you will have to diffuse the situation. Everything else you're right.
Lady T, if you dont do it early on, dont do it later. This is a classic example of "who the hell are you". I accept normal functions, but most functions are controllable. I dont fart or burp all the time. Occasionally at work when I'm trying to keep ppl away, but rarely in public.
I agree with being friends and being able to be yourself. but do you do this when you are hanging with your girls. Are they excusing this behavior? So because I say something, I'm wrong. If you dont fart around your friends, dont do it around me. And if you do, your disgusting and I clearly chose the wrong person. Of course a slip happens every now and then, but not every day or even a week. Change your diet.
Men shouldn't be taking 3 hours to get dressed. We shouldn't nagging or pouting. Men should not be crying every sad movie. We are men. Be women.
@Es: LMAO! Powwwwww! I agree with your response to Anonymous' comment. Particularly, the "thats y youre single" statement. Too much. Lol.
ReplyDeleteI also dont think proper etiquette should be limited to the "honeymoon" stages. I try to keep that "honeymoon" phase going. Growing up none of us knew when my mother took a sh*t in the bathroom. Lol.
Mighty D.R.: Xoxoxoxo! I feel you on the guy coming in to defend his lady, etc. But I think some women use that to their advantage at times. On the occasions that I do get into a confrontation, I do so with it in mind that its my problem. I dont expect for anyone to defend me, woman or man. If they do, its very flattering but a part of me would feel remorseful that my man had to get involved. I understand if its a man who's being disrespectful, you would come to her aid. How, if at all, does it change if its her and another woman arguing? To what level is it appropriate for someone's "man" to intervene?
Lady T and Pabvon: Heyyyyy:-) Pabvon, I totally feel you on someone's actions being the best prediction as to future behavior! and someone who could calm me down during a confrontation would be ideal. Missssssed you guys!
Now about the swearing, that is a huge struggle for me. I think I curse A LOT! I dont even notice when other people do it, unless it is in public (which is inappropriate). If a guy casually calls women b*tches, it doesnt bother me at all. If he calls ME a b*tch (outside of the obvious circumstances) it's a problem. Lol. But I think I should work on this habit, out of respect for whomever I'm speaking to.
Notice that I put "honeymoon" in quotation marks. That's because I don't believe in acting one way in the beginning and totally different after. However, just like I wouldn't invite a man I don't know to my house, but then later on invite him once I got to know him better... that is the same way I'm using "honeymoon." With time your comfort level changes with some and you feel less inhibited about certain things. I do not condone a complete personality change.
ReplyDeleteHey Sam! - I didn't say anything about losing etiquette after the "honeymoon." I don't know how your mom covered it up but there are ways to which is why I suggested air freshener as well as cover your mouth when you burp and say excuse me if you happen to fart. That is etiquette. I promote etiquette in all phases of the relationship.
One question for you Es... what kind of farting have you been exposed to? Lol! No one said that farting all the time was acceptable. I completely agree with changing your diet if that's the case. I thought we were just talking about occasional farting that slips out from time to time. If you're referring to habitual farting and burping then you're right, that's nasty and it's not ladylike.
Yeah I was thinking this was random occasional burping, passing of gas and an occasional S!@# But I didn't know you were refering to a woman who appears all dainty, then when she starts to speak she's chipping away at 'her picture' (either the one she presented or the one you painted in your mind) b/c she's cussing like a sailor and ripping holes in the ozone with her bodily gas! lol
ReplyDeleteI'm all about manners but if this is my MAN and we are growing together I'm about comfort. respect should always play a role so I'm going to ALWAYS respect myself and my behavior shouldn't be offensive to my mate otherwise I've made a mistake, b/c I like me and he should too.
I tend to believe the honeymoon phase doesn't really end. and honestly YES I do change with time... I go from GOOD to BETTER... OWWW!
Sam don't scale back on the cursing unless that's what YOU want to do. There will be plenty o men who will take you just as you are. Just like you don't mind a man throwing the B word around that's not the man for me so that works.
Es as for 'do you do xyz around your friends', most people are at their most comfortable state when with friends. The relationships I see that I want to emulate are the ones where my friend is still recognizable when their mate is around. There's nothing more jarring than hanging with your mate and their friends and you are looking at your mate like "WHO ARE YOU? and where's my delicate flower or gentle giant?"